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"-One of the teachings of Wicca is reincarnation. But there is no evidence in support of reincarnation. There is no way to prove it exists."

There is no way to prove Heaven either, dumbass. Also, at least reincarnation makes sense for two reasons:

- It is a common belief in even christian derived traditions, so it's prevalence is indicative that it is more likely to be real than Heaven.

- On a scientific point of view, the body is scattered after death, so why not the soul? Only  some abrahamic cults believe in a soul that is immortal; all other religions believe the soul can be fragmented, can be wounded. Seeing as how the soul is consistently depicted as not being a distinct entity from the body, it makes more sense.

"-How do you know the gods and goddesses of Wicca exist? Can you prove it?

-The Christian God has evidence to prove Him (see artist description). "

First, Wicca believes in two essencial deities; everything else is an aspect of them. The Bible itself also reffers to "Sophia", meaning that there too are two "Gods" in Christian theology, hence you are an hypocrite for criticising Wicca on that aspect.

Second, your "argument" for God's belief has been disproven mutiple times. Hence, yopu are a moron even by the standards of the average theologist.

"Why would I leave Christianity which teaches something proven, for Wiccan which teaches something unproven?"

Because you are an imbecile who knows shit about theology, even your own.

"-Wicca denies the existence of Heaven of Hell (in the same way it denies Satan). Again, how would you explain those who have been to Heaven or Hell? People have been clinically dead before – sometimes as long as twenty minutes – and talk about seeing places that are consistent with the Bible's depictions of Heaven and Hell."


Note that all reccords of near death experiences about Heaven/Hell occur ONLY in the West. In Asia, there are virtually no such experiences; on the other hand, experiences of the Buddhist Underworld are very prevalent.

Hence, you are basing your "argument" on something most psychologists know to be fake.

"-Wicca claims there are no such things as pure evil and no absolute morals."

Your level of ignorance does not even begin to describe the fail of this statement. Wicca famously has "harm none" as it's core statement; how is that "not an absolute morality"?

"-Christianity affirms this. God is absolutely good and Satan absolutely evil."

Your God is a mass murderer. Only a sociopath would accept Yahweh as "goodness incarnate".

"-Wiccan also states that there are no absolute truths."

High octane research failure. Wicca has a distinct dogma, and while many sects disagree amidst themselves, so do christian sects.

"Why would I leave Christianity for Wicca when it upholds such a contradiction?"

Seeing how many contradictions there are on the Bible, you not only are an hypocrite, but extremely ignorant as well.

"Wicca claims it is not the only way, and that all spiritual paths are valid."

Some sects claim so, others not. In general, Wicca holds that all gods are aspects of two supreme deities, hence there are many paths, and no proselyting henceforth. However, wiccans themselves have a strict dogma, so they do consider their path a more accurate view of reality than, say, yours.

"Why would I leave Christianity which affirms that it is the only right way, for Wicca that says contradicting spiritual paths are all true?"

Because you are fanatical, ignorant, zealous and prideful (ironically enough). If you are that arrogant to claim everyone else is ignorant for not following your delusions, then obviously you are going to pick the least tolerant religion around.

"-In Wicca, you can worship one or many gods. Various ways of looking at the gods are accepted. In essence, it is a religion of self-design. You can believe what you want. Whatever works best for you."

If your views of the gods match Wicca's. If I was a wiccan, I would not worship Tlaloc, because sacrificing children is against Wicca's creed.

"-This is fundamentally illogical because of the huge contradictions this encompasses. If a politician tells us varying things and contradicts himself, we think he is a liar. If a teacher tells contradicting things, we don't know what is right and what to study for the test."

We can tell if a teacher is right or wrong by doing research ourselves. Likewise, you can learn about any deity by researching them and understanding the context behind their mythology. Something you so far seem to be failing at.

"-Christianity is very clear on what is right and what is wrong. There is no guesswork involved, and the path to Heaven is made clear. The same standard applies to all of Christianity."

Considering how vague and contradictory the Bible is, you again demonstrate a lot of hypocrisy. Indeed, if the Bible wasn't so contradictory and vague, there wouldn't be millions of christian sects that interpret it differently.
A response to :iconallendra3:'s extremely bigoted and ignorant bashing of Wicca.
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Krystianna Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Catholic/Christian actually has 3 dieties if you think about it: God, Jesus and Satan. Yes Satan is a Christian divinity when you seriously think about it...he has always been about since the early days of biblical mythology. He was there in the Garden of Eden and will be there in the "end of days." In some Catholic texts, the devil is prayed to and envoked when performing an exorcisim.

If you want to take it to the extreme,m even the other angels: Mike, Uri, Raphi and the others are also gods. They have always been since before mankind and earth. They are prayed to. They are indeed immortal..hence they are gods/goddesses. So the Christian/Catholic Faith surely has atleast more than one god despite what the "church" says.
JohnFaa Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Student Writer
Indeed, Christianity is the "he who fights monsters" religion. To say nothing of all the european christian solar deity syncretism.
Arrowriter Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
I could kiss you for writing this. Wonderful argument, hilarious picture, and overall great defense of Wicca!
psyco-chick28 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who rolled their eyes when they read that, "well researched," my butt. I bet she asked some fluffies and picked up some Silver Ravenwolf for research. I find it funny that she says you need proof to believe in the Judeo-Christian god, when a lot of Christians tell me that they don't need proof to believe in God, they just know in their hearts and if you do need proof you don't really believe. Why can't other religions use the same measure of proof?
hanciong Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
buddhism and hinduism with more than one billions adherents also believe in reincarnation (and rebirth). also, there are many signs that rebirth do indeed happen. for example, people who never travel to some place, but know every detail of that place. also, in hypnotherapy, there is something called past regression, to find when a "mental problem" (such as phobia) first time occurred. and it happens several time that the first time the problem occurred is in his/her past life. so for example, a person is 24 years old age and has a spider-phobia, and in hypnosis state, he says the problem happens the first time at 60 years ago, and so on. just give you some information, in case you have another argument with different person :D
Yohan-2014 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012
ha ha funny image, and good argumet
DragonFang01 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:clap: Brilliant
MagicKoiFishOfDoom Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012
Total win, thank you for doing this.
Crazy-Shinobi-Muffin Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:icondoublefacepalmplz: Some people are a waste of a human life...
the5thCount Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012
Why the fuck is this defense of wiccan superstition in an atheist club?
JohnFaa Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012  Student Writer
Because this is a display of christian idiocy and intolerance at it's finest.
Tarturus Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wicca does at least have the advantage that it does not go around killing non-believers, while Christianity has killed at least 250 million people in its history (and always for really stupid reasons).

As for the argument about people reporting having been to heaven and hell, you could also point out that lots of people have also reported having memories of past lives. So if one were to use what people think they have experienced as "evidence" then one can make a just as good, if not better, case for reincarnation than one could for heaven and hell.
JohnFaa Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Student Writer
250 is the conservative estimates. If one considers all natives slaughtered by missionary efforts...

Indeed; people have visions of all sorts of afterlives. It either proves all religions are true, or that it's mere delusions
Tarturus Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know its a conservative estimate. That is why I said "at least". Exact figures are impossible to tell, due to various factors like poor record keeping, etc.

And yes all religions have reports of afterlife experiences, miracles and other such stuff. Clearly such things can not prove any one religion true.
Dragontunders Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist
that abstract. I did not know you liked it.
Gul0Gul0 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
I don't know about wicca, but that light switch is clearly a win, not a fail. ;-)
JohnFaa Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Student Writer
gorgonbreath Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist
Wicca doesn't really exist,unfortunately Christianity does.:(
JohnFaa Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Student Writer
As in the theology or the world power? If the latter, then yes
gorgonbreath Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist
Yes, the latter.:D
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